My Waking Up Experience: No-Self, Thanks to an iPhone App

In the Buddhist teaching, there are three primary characteristics of existence: impermanence, unsatisfactoriness, and no-self. I’ve experienced these characteristics to varying depths and degrees in my practice of Vipassana, a body-scanning meditation technique and a Pali word meaning “to see clearly,” but no-self is far and away the most elusive insight of the bunch.

No-self (also sometimes stated as not-self) is an idea, which can also be directly experienced, that “the self” is a conceptual illusion—that I do not exist in the way I think I do. The seat or center of attention cannot be pointed to and therefore does not exist. Sure, my brain and body exist at the physical level, but “me”, “mine” and “I” are closer to unclear, conceptual abstractions. The no-self insight seeks to answer the question: who am I? And apparently, the moment one goes looking for the answer, they’re bound to find… nothing. 🙂

It’s an important insight because “the self” is the root of our suffering. So much of our daily turmoil is done to preserve, express, and enhance our self-image. And what a relief it would be not only to understand but to directly experience that the self never existed and needed no unnecessary bolstering in the first place.

No-self is unlike the other two characteristics of existence, which are pretty straight-forward (impermanence = nothing lasts, unsatisfactoriness = the mind wants that which it does not have and does not want that which it has), and thus becomes a difficult idea for many of us in the West to comprehend intellectually, much less experience directly. And the latter is the key to its understanding.

Until a couple of months ago, I found no-self to be the trickiest of insights. Even in deep states of concentration and moments of body disillusionment, I felt myself identifying as an observer in possession of attention. And how could there be no-self if I’m the observer? The mind remained, but instead of growing disheartened or discouraged by this process, I developed a growing curiosity for this elusive no-self insight.

That brings us to about two months ago when, in however small a way, I first tasted this evasive experience.

MY (LIMITED) EXPERIENCE WITH NO SELF

It began with an iPhone/Android app called Waking Up, the brainchild of neuroscientist, meditator, and public intellectual Sam Harris. I tapped into the app as a skeptic of most guided meditation apps but since Sam was once a Vipassana meditator, I was curious what he had to teach that would be different from any good ole 10-day Vipassana course.

Needless to say, the app pleasantly surprised me. Here’s what I found to be insightful—I hope it’s as useful to you on your journey as it has been on mine.

THE WAKING UP APP

Firstly, the app’s content is a mix of lessons and guided meditations but the contextual gem in helping me understand the app’s origin and purpose was the lesson entitled “Gradual vs. Sudden Realization.”

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Sudden screenshot from the Waking Up iPhone app.

It’s in this lesson that Sam recounts the story of his experience with Vipassana meditation, a technique with which he grew frustrated over the years and led him to seek new techniques. Sam’s personal critique of Vipassana goes like this: it is a path of gradual awakening, one in which the practitioner gradually works their way through various insights, toward subtler and subtler realities until experiencing the subtlest of all realities—enlightenment. Vipassana by no means rules out sudden awakening, although it generally runs counter to the practice’s paradigm as it’s well accepted the path takes many years, if not lifetimes of steadfast effort and diligent practice toward this pursuit until one’s time ripens.

Frustrated with his enlightenment progression on the Vipassana track, Sam embarked to Nepal where he encountered a practice that better suited his seeking and flipped his gradual meditative paradigm. As Sam puts it: “[he] went to shed his ego but found none existed.”

ENTER DZOGCHEN

The practice Sam encountered which first delivered him this insight is called Dzogchen (Sam pronounces this as zoeg-chen). Listening to the app was my first time hearing of Dzogchen and I have no direct experience with it apart from Sam’s teachings and my intellectual studies, so take this with a grain of salt, but based on Sam’s explanation, in combination with what I’m experiencing, Dzogchen is a non-dual meditation technique delivered in what’s called the pointing out instruction, rooted in the realization that the no-self insight is actually available on the surface level of awareness, including during everyday mundane moments. Sam reinforces this in his guided meditation sessions through commands like “arrive suddenly” and “arrive all at once.”

non duality dogen

One (without a Second*) example of a nondual meditative practice. (* = nondual jokes)

As a Vipassana practitioner, I find these types of commands new, interesting and useful. I don’t believe Sam is very “deep” in his concentration when he’s experiencing no-self. I say this from a dualistic perspective where there are various degrees, depths and intensities to which one can glimpse insights. On the path of duality, a surface-level no-self experience such as this must not be confused with nibanna, or complete cessation of suffering.

But that’s sorta the point of Dzogchen. Depth isn’t required to glimpse the no-self insight. In non-dualistic teachings, depth and surface are dualities and thus superficial. Rather, the awakening experience is available right here, right now, as it is. You don’t have to get any closer to anything. After one has received what’s called the pointing out instruction, one has already arrived. Therefore, in the Dzogchen worldview, the path is both separate from enlightenment and at the same time encompassing of it. Note the limitations of language when it comes to non-dualistic teachings. Language is inherently dualistic so the linguistic territory is difficult to navigate non-dualistically and accounts for the mind-boggling parables, riddles and koans found in such traditions. In Dzogchen, there is no self who is suffering in the first place so there is no self to purify.

Initially, I believed this whole Dzogchen thing ran in opposition to my dualistic belief that glimpsing insights requires lots of work. And I do still think work is required, but this doesn’t necessarily place Dzogchen in opposition to Vipassana or any other gradual awakening practice. There’s a grain of truth to extract from every teaching. In essence, both are correct and neither should be discounted. Per the Dzogchen teaching, I am finding some piece of this no-self insight to be available at the surface and thus my paradigm is having to shift accordingly. Perhaps Dzogchen has something to learn from Vipassana and vise-versa.

I’m not claiming to have experienced enlightenment or even having arrived at any particular station along the path. Instead, I’m merely stating this app has been useful in showing me the tools to better understand and glimpse no-self, if only at the supposed surface level.

For instance, back to this problem of a meditator feeling themselves identifying with the observer in possession of attention. Whereas the Vipassana approach might continue to observe the body’s sensations, in Dzogchen, one turns attention (which I perceive as sensations) back onto itself in an attempt to observe the observer in space or to locate the feeling of observing. The moment I turn awareness back on itself, it’s confusingly evident there’s no self or seat or center of consciousness to observe. There, I simply rest in that space. The work shifts to resting with awareness rather than sharpening with great effort. The observer (or those sensations associated with being an observer) then become another feeling encompassed within the grander realm of consciousness. I hope that made sense, ha. It’s a slightly different way to work with attention—it feels relaxing, wider and at a meta-level of awareness compared to digging in the field of sensation, a step toward what Buddhists might call Right Effort.

Another small/large difference between the practices (at least the way I was practicing) is that catching oneself while lost in thought is scored as something of a loss in mindfulness, a reason to strengthen your awareness and then “try again” or “return” to the practice. In Dzogchen, the thought which you were rolling in can serve as yet another tool to reinforce the understanding of no-self through either the observation of the thought’s origin (where did that thought come from?), its creator (who thought that thought?), or its exit (where did that thought go?), without mentally verbalizing these questions; mere observation.

By no means am I trying to discount the practice of Vipassana. To me, it remains an invaluable tool and I’ll continue my practice headstrong. In speaking with my long-time Vipassana meditator friend Bradley about these practices, he brought up a valuable point: that each path of meditation and most spiritual paths have built within them the same goal—the removal of suffering and ultimate liberation. How one reaches this end can be accomplished by entering through a variety of doors, in the case of Buddhism those doors being: the door of impermanence, the door of suffering, or the door of no-self.

Simply put, I see Dzogchen as another door leading to the same end.

All that said, I have not (yet) received the pointing out instruction, so take everything I’m saying with a grain of salt and feel free to call me a fool. Until then, I believe that these practices can be cross-trained in the same manner an athlete might for strength but for insights. Whether you enter through the door of impermanence, unsatisfactoriness or no-self, may you find a way out of your suffering. I’m stoked about the whole path and inspired to work.

I was once hesitant to recommend meditation apps, but I’ve found Sam’s guidance to be a wonderful supplement to a self-led practice. Join me on this journey either by signing up for a vipassana course, downloading Waking Up app (currently $15/month), testing this for yourself and engaging in this dialogue with me. I’m not affiliated with Sam or his app but I invite you to invest in your mind. It is truly all we have to offer at each moment. And maybe, through our journeying, we’ll find there was no mind to invest in the first place. 🙂

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Love,
David

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4 thoughts on “My Waking Up Experience: No-Self, Thanks to an iPhone App”

  1. Hi David,
    Thought your article was very interesting. I am also at the point in my meditation practice where I’m trying to get grips with Sam’s claim that one is able to realise experientially the ‘no-self’ aspect of consciousness with just a simple shift in one’s awareness. I’m finding it the most elusive, tantalising, and frustrating part of his app, but also holding out hope that it will be the most promising aspect of what Sam is trying to impart. I’m really wrestling intellectually at the moment with the tension between the rationale behind Vipassana and that behind Dzogchen, or gradual vs sudden realisation as you say. I’ve only recently started meditation and so far the Vipassana teaching has been incredibly useful, the fact that you can gain insight into the way you think and the mechanics of suffering just by observing how the mind works on a subjective level. I’m totally sold on a dualistic mindfulness practice, learning how to find equanimity amid the flux and how to break the spell of helplessly identifying with thought.

    But then comes the instruction to ‘look for the one who is looking,’ or ‘simply turn awareness upon itself’ that really drives me round the bend. You say near the end of your piece that you have not yet received the ‘pointing out’ instruction, but as far as I understand this basically is the pointing out instruction. The way Sam tries to make it clearer is by referencing ‘On Having No Head’ by Douglas Harding who tries to describe as clearly as he can what ‘no-self’ would feel like once realised. But the whole endeavour just seems impossibly ridiculous and implausible compared with the concrete utility of mindfulness meditation. I wish Sam would talk more about this in particular, as he claims it’s the most important thing he has ever been explicitly taught by another person, but it just ends up making me question the entire point of meditation in the first place.

    Your blog website are great by the way.

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    • Hey Josh,

      Thank you for your insightful comment. I’m right there with you in your frustration and I have many of the same questions. I’m unsure if I’ll be able to offer any further clarity, but I’ve thought a bit more about this and will try to add something constructive.

      I’m unsure whether Sam is giving the pointing out instruction or if he‘s trying his best to give the pointing out instruction. I’ve heard him say that the difference between receiving the instruction from a “good” vs. a “great” teacher is a night and day experience, and I don’t know where he claims to sit on that scale. This is why I became increasingly interested in finding a great teacher, much like Sam did. And if he’s pointing us to Harding’s book, is that evidence his instructions lack clarity?

      That said, I think you’re right. Let’s say he’s got the instructions nailed down, and that the problem isn’t the teacher but the student. I’d like to assume responsibility and believe this is the case for me. Even with sufficient/“perfect” instruction, I can’t imagine everyone’s going to get it, especially on their first listen (or their second, etc.). Perhaps whether one realizes this insight suddenly or gradually depends on where one’s at in their practice when receiving it. My frustration only arises because of my expectation of Sam describing the insight as “sudden” when, sure, at the time when it finally gets through to me, it’ll be sudden, but until then it’s a gradual process of understanding and practice.

      All that said, I also think there’s multiple ways to arrive at no-self with or without the pointing out instruction. For instance, I’ve found it helpful observing the non-existence of a “continuous-self,” maybe because it’s much easier for me to understand intellectually. For example, if the sensations, thoughts and phenomena of my consciousness are constantly changing, what does that mean for the self? Of course, I’m unsure if this line of awareness leads to an insight that’s equally as profound as the result of the pointing out instruction, but it has been helpful to me.

      Another idea that arose for me is that realizing the insight really is as simple as he says it is. Even though no-self feels confusing and allusive, that’s exactly the point. Maybe that’s the way the insight is supposed to feel, and I’ve got it wrong thinking all insights should feel a certain way? This is most likely bypassing and self-deception, but it’s something I’ve considered.

      I hope that helps in your journey. Like you, I intend to keep moving forward in my practice and, with dedication, hope the insights will follow when the time is right. Thanks for the kind words about my blog and I really appreciate your thoughtful comment.

      Wishing you well,
      David

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  2. Hey David,

    It just seems too mystical by half if Sam has received and fully internalised a clear pointing-out instruction directly from a Tibetan master (I believe it was Tulku Urgyen), but then would be unable to pass this on to others by recapitulating in full the necessary instructions, given his obvious intelligence and the general clarity of his thought and speech. In other words, I would have thought that the instruction would be much more readily understood coming from Sam, who is highly articulate and speaks perfect english, rather than via translation of a Tibetan teacher, however ‘great.’ Perhaps I am being overly sceptical, but all other meditation theory can be imparted quite readily and indirectly, either through books or guided meditations, so why would this one, most profound, point require a special guru-student relationship?

    It would be interesting to know if Sam has heard back from anyone who has achieved the sudden realisation from his guided meditations alone.

    My main worry at this stage is that the attempt to try ‘turn awareness on itself’ or to ‘look for the one who is looking’ could derail the normal practice of mindfulness, given that this act seems to require an effortful intention. I don’t know if you have tried any other meditation apps? I have also been following Joseph Goldstein’s meditations on Dan Harris’s 10% Happier app, and he hasn’t once talked about achieving sudden realisation of ‘no-self,’ but does a great job of teaching the basics of mindfulness.

    Anyway, I remain mostly hopelessly confused, but it’s all fascinating and I shall persevere.

    Thanks again for your blog.

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    • Hey Josh,

      I had a breakthrough on this topic while sitting this morning and wanted to share it with you.

      Rather than looking for a self, I became more interested in the worry and frustration variable of the problem. I felt that this was the greater hindrance to growth at this stage—the frustration, worries and fears arising within me. So I began to observe frustration and ask myself questions like: why am I frustrated? And who or where is the one who is frustrated and worried?

      One answer that emerged for me is that frustration is just a pattern of energy that I’m addicted to. I’m so attached to my habit-patterns of judgment (in this case, judging myself for my behavior/inabilities) and I’m scared to let go of that judgment because if I stopped judging myself, who would I be/become? I’m scared I wouldn’t even exist if I didn’t have problems! There’s an underlying belief that the way I treat myself with frustration and worry is helpful and directly correlated with me becoming a better/more accomplished person.

      But now I’m questioning if that‘s true, if the frustration is really helpful and wondering if it’s necessary. I now see it as a great trap and a barrier to my growth. So this is where I’m working—not on no-self, but on the frustration and judgmental aspect of what no-self has brought up for me.

      I hope this helps. One question I found most helpful: if you were to let go of this frustration, what would happen to you?

      Would love to know your thoughts.

      Cheers,
      David

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